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Madhuri Katti

Madhuri Katti — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Another excellent post, Celso!

My impression of south America comes from books, movies,and music. To name a few would be books of Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Pablo Neruda, Isabella Allende, Herzog’s films(couple of them are set in Amazon and show unexploited, vulnerable and innocent but spirited and humane people of Amazon)and ofcourse Brazil’s samba music...Last but not the least, the region has given the world best coffee and great football teams...

I feel all countries of south America are united in their spirit of life, their history of struggle and their continuing struggle to evolve...its good if they get politically united to face globalisation forces and take a step forward!

Celso Camargo

Celso Camargo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Thank you! That’s the only way we can protect ourselves here: seeking for integration. Without that, all countries here would be exposed to the globalisation effects (the bad effects mostly).

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

And most were into magic realism weren’t they? For me South America has always been this faraway distant place.. A magical place which exists in real! And Madhuri, I like reading Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Pablo Neruda, Isabella Allende and others.. Haven’t watched Herzog yet... :(

Madhuri Katti

Madhuri Katti — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

You said it, Jaiyant...

Its a land which gave world the best magical realists!

BTW I saw all Herzog films at B’lore’s Max Muellar library...BCL too has dvds of Herzog...

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

I really must go check them out! I have always wanted to visit countries in South America. The only Magic realist outside South America I know is Salman Rushdie. Do you know of any others? I’m sure there are many, but I can’t get their names now..

Celso Camargo

Celso Camargo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Can I give a suggestion? Try to find Machado de Assis, a Brazilian writer (the most important, I must say) who is amazing.

Madhuri Katti

Madhuri Katti — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Jaiyant, do check out Max Muellar Bhavan, they organise film shows once in a while and they show rare good films. Also there was something called B’lore film society which organised world film screenings on weekends...

I don’t like all works of Salman Rushdie...but some of them are unforgettable...Arudhati Roy did try to come near magical realism in ’God of Small things’ but Marquez, Isabella Allende remain my all time favourite magical realists!

Madhuri Katti

Madhuri Katti — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Celso,

Thanks for suggesting Brazilian writer, Machado de Assis...can you give names of books and are they easily available?

I haven’t come across his books yet...

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Thank you for the suggestion Celso.. I’ll try online if I could whack it somewhere. I hope English translations are available. Yes madhuri, I”ll try Max Mueller Bhavan. Even Alliance Francaise organizes such film festivals. Are you also talking about the Suchitra Film Society here?

Celso Camargo

Celso Camargo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

There are two books of Machado de Assis that are unbelievable:

The Posthumous Memoirs of Bras Cubas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Posthumous_Memoirs_of_Bras_Cubas) - a guy which tell his history after his dead.

Dom Casmurro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_Casmurro) - about an

alleged adultery.

If you like literary realism, these will make your mind blows! They are free to download.

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks Celso, I’ll read them soon...

Madhuri Katti

Madhuri Katti — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks, Celso...I’ll check out on the web soon...

@Jaiyant,

I was in B’lore some 8 years back...I was member of B’lore film society then...maybe its defunct now...I saw most of Fellini, Kurosawa, Godard and many other world classics there, including ’The Bicycle thief’...its so sad such film clubs are dying now...here in Kolkata we get pirated CDs of classic films though...

Jayashree

Jayashree — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

I didn’t think you lived like monkeys and fought over bananas (or any coffee beans)! But this article sure was informative.

I still miss your mad articles, though..hey Celso, good to have you back. Everyone here was worried about you!

Celso Camargo

Celso Camargo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Hehehehe! Thank you!

I wrote about the monkeys because this is a South America stereotype (a bad one, but does exist a good one?) and besides I didn’t know how to start the article, so the idea came up and I could write without problems.

However, I have to say that I am really intrigued about my disappearance! Indeed I’ve been through bad things this last 5 days, but how could you know that? I guess is because of the ”sociopath” in my profile!

And about the crazy articles, there is one wanting to come out, but first I must organise all my crazy thoughts!

Jayashree

Jayashree — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Aah you’re an important part of the mad club, that’s how I know :p Hope things haven’t been too bad though. Just throw all the bad things back at the world, I’ll be happy if you do that so long as the bad stuff doesn’t hit me.

Waiting for the mad article...and it’s better disorganised. After all, the madder, the better!

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Jayshree is mad herself

Madhuri Katti

Madhuri Katti — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

@Jayashree...

Good to see your irregularly regular comments! Yes, I am also waiting for mad articles from you and others...

Celso Camargo

Celso Camargo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Hmmmmm, so I guess you will not be shocked with my next article ”The rise of Crazy Clowns Gang”.

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

The last mad article she wrote was the spider one.. She loves spiders. Hey write some more of that.. I’ll write a mad article too. And MadKat when will you write a mad article? You never write mad ones. They reek of realistic tragedy, inexorable politics and of course what religion has done to humans

Madhuri Katti

Madhuri Katti — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Hey, Jaiyant...

Am I a part of mad club?

I did write ’Half glass full’ and couple of more way back...

Yes, by and large most of my madness begins and ends with my name...:)

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Part of the mad club? Yr even asking me? Ugh.. You are one of the founding members of the mad club along with me and other friends. Ok. Now I know you suffer from amnesia.

Half glassful was mad. Yes.

Jayashree

Jayashree — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Jeez, I take years to reply. Jaiyant, stop telling people I’m mad. I look so sane next to ya :p

@MadKat Thanks, and ofcoz you’re part of the mad club. Else you wouldn’t acknowledge our presence!

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Hey Celso.. Good to have you back man.. Awesome article as usual. I don’t understand this ’The south is our north’.. Can ya tell me pls? And U.S. of course has ravaged the Spurth American countries from a long time. And wasn’t it the Americans who funded dictatorial regimes in the U>S>? Maybe they feel insecure that they have to deal with other democratic and capitalist countries south of them, which makes their exploitative nature suffer setbacks... And I want mad articles too.

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

South American* and many other mistakes.. Pl understand yourselves everyone..

Celso Camargo

Celso Camargo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Let me try to explain what is the meaning of ”the south is our north”. To South America, the north represents Europe and United States, countries that for centuries only came here to take something without giving nothing good in return.

So, the ”south” is the most viable alternative because the economic development of one means that others will be developing too.

Putting down the trade barriers and seeking political integration is the way that this region found out to start to be free and more independent.

One example of this integration is a major university which is being building here, the Mercosur University (though I’m not sure about the name): it will have unities in Brazilian, Argentinian, Uruguayan and Paraguayan borders, all close to each other and with the objective of allow people from Mercosur countries to share knowledge and experiences.

Celso Camargo

Celso Camargo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

”being building”! My English is getting better every single day! But thanks Jaipire!

Jaiyant Cavale

Jaiyant Cavale — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Okie now I get it. I do believe regional cooperation will help countries in a certain region a lot. however, I think cooperation between countries that are far away, like Brazil-South Africa-India thing you told me about the other day, will help a lot too. I mean, these relationships must complement regional cooperation. This I say because, neighboring countries will sooner or later end up competing against each other..

Celso Camargo

Celso Camargo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000

My best guess is that the competition will take a long time. The Brazil-Argentina relationship is very similar to US-Canada relationship.